> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Alexander Kurtakov wrote: > > * AutoQA - QA guys are struggling with their effort to get their stuff > > running from Fedora packages (shame on us if we can't make our own stuff > > run from our packages) > > * Name it :) > > At my work, first thing that happens with Java is that Openjdk gets > thrown out of the window and is replaced with Oracle's JRE. Well, this is not applicable for Fedora at all :). > > That of course is not going to make openjdk less buggy or > get more testers, so what I'd like to see is a some kind of > wiki page of its implications. > > - what breaks if openjdk is removed Every java package in Fedora is tested with only OpenJDK and/or GCJ there is no way we can test/guarantee that Fedora package works with any JVM that is not build into Fedora properly. > - what works & what doesn't with openjdk Heh, it depends on your workflow. OpenJDK is working perfectly for me in my daily work as a software tools developer :). > - what integration issues there are with Fedora/EPEL and Oracle JRE Well we have a huge issue here. There is no legal way to import Oracle JRE into Fedora so there is no way we can make use of it in Fedora. > - what is gained if openjdk can be used and kept in place as a default JRE We gain the ability to build and run Java Software which is huge gain. > - ? > > This page should be something to convince to those who remove > openjdk. Fedora should not and will not promote usage of Oracle JRE. Go read it's license http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk-6u21- license-159167.txt . It's proprietary and it's against basic Fedora principles. Read details about the Oracle/Sun's JRE licencing and problems with it in Mark's blog post http://gnu.wildebeest.org/blog/mjw/2009/11/14/trusting-companies-with-your- code/ Please never, ever add anything promoting proprietary software on Fedora wiki. > Keeping it compact and focusing on that audience. > > Removing openjdk is a chicken and egg problem, perhaps that wiki > page could avoid some of those cases with small effort from Fedora's > side? Removing OpenJDK is out of scope for Fedora unless you can give us a better open-source alternative. Alex > > > Tuju -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel