Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

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On Friday 27 of August 2010 07:03:06 Garrett Holmstrom wrote:
> On 8/26/2010 11:53 PM, Michal Hlavinka wrote:
> > On Thursday 26 of August 2010 21:21:53 Garrett Holmstrom wrote:
> >> Kevin Kofler wrote:
> >>> We probably need to attack this trend more aggressively, like putting
> >>> expiration dates into the installer after which it'll just refuse to
> >>> install, stuffing fedora-release-n+1 into the Fedora n updates
> >>> repository at Fedora n's EOL date etc.
> >> 
> >> Not only is this disingenuous, but it also contradicts Fedora's
> >> "Freedom" policy.  Adding a big fat warning message to the installer,
> >> however, is much less of a problem and gets the message across just as
> >> effectively.  Just make sure that the "expiration date" is far enough
> >> out in the future that we can be certain that it will occur after the
> >> release's EOL date since we don't know when that will be at the time of
> >> image creation.
> > 
> > I don't think it should be far enough. It should be some time before EOL
> > happens. What's the point installing and configuring new system that will
> > EOL tomorrow / after one week? But still... +1 to warning message in the
> > installer
> 
> At the time the install images are composed the release's EOL date has
> not yet been decided, so we would be stuck with guessing a date and
> hoping it will be somewhat close.
> 
> Fedora releases are either "Supported" or "Unsupported."  Unless the
> community wants to define some third, "Sort-of-supported" state then
> there should be no functional changes in the installer's and
> repositories' behaviors until after the release goes "Unsupported."

Yes, but the message does not have to be "Warning: Fedora N is no longer 
supported", it can be something like "Warning: Fedora relase is usualy 
supported 13 months, you are probably going to install unsupported version or 
version that is going to be unsupported after a few days. You can check this 
on fedoraproject.org.... Check get.fedoraproject.org for more recent version."

I think the wording is not the main problem
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