For the past week or so I have been battling with a problem that I had thought (after some chasing around) was a Thunderbird upstream problem. The issue was that selecting Edit->Preferences-> General and allowing selection of a xxx.wav file to play for incoming mail did not work. It turned out that in fact the reason was there were two required packages (pulseaudio-esound-compat and esound-libs) that were needed for Thunderbird to function with sound and play these sounds. Whilst it would be highly desirable for upstream to move from the now obsolete esd sound system to pulse, in the meantime we are stuck with thunderbird as it is. However it took quite a lot of searching to find the two packages necessary (which are not installed by default), and I wonder if it would be possible to make those two packages a dependency for thunderbird so that others don't hit the same bug. Certainly an inexperienced Fedora user would most likely not be able to resolve this for a standard installed set of packages! The upstream bug where this was sorted out is at: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=589732 It seems that for some other distributions the necessary packages are there by default. Any views on this? Could it be done for f14? -- mike c -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel