Patrice Dumas wrote: > The support for flash in free software exists, but is still not at the > level of proprietarysupport. Indeed, Gnash doesn't support the latest ActionScript spec which most new stuff is written in (especially when people are trying to actually use Flash for programming as opposed to simple animations), and it also has this tendency to crash all the time. :-( Other implementations are not any better. There's Lightspark, but AFAIK it's still incomplete and it will likely never be in Fedora because it has a hard dependency on FFmpeg (it uses FFmpeg directly). I don't use the proprietary Flash, but that means a lot of Flash stuff just doesn't work on my machines. I STRONGLY RECOMMEND AGAINST using Flash as a platform for Free Software development. You'll be tempted to rely on features which are only in the proprietary implementation (in fact, if you don't test with Free implementations from day one, your stuff is very likely to rely on such features!), making your software effectively non-Free! See also: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html (the example of Java is no longer current, but the point of the article still stands, and much of it applies 1:1 now after s/Java/Flash/g). > I still haven't understood what formats are similar with swf, and better > supported by open source, maybe svg + WebM? Actual PROGRAMMING languages as opposed to some ugliness which parasites the web browser? Free Software developers should write their app in a real language, such as C++ (Qt provides powerful support for graphics and animations, for example) or one of the bazillion other languages Fedora packages are written in. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel