Re: Fedora 14 branching and dist-git roll out

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Jesse

Another dumb question.  I uploaded a package, frama-c. Will it be included in 14. 

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On Jul 24, 2010, at 2:54 AM, Jesse Keating <jkeating@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hey all!  It's that time again, we're gearing up to branch for Fedora 14
> this coming Tuesday!  There is a major twist this time around, we're
> going to attempt a roll out of dist-git!
> 
> Dist-git is our replacement for the CVS system we are currently using.
> This is a pretty big deal, but we're going to try to make it as smooth
> as possible.  In the next few days I'll be finalizing our git server
> setup and polishing up the user interface tool you all will be using to
> interact with the source control and build system.
> 
> The conversion will take a couple days, which means our normal short
> outage for branching will be a bit extended.  I wish there was another
> way, but converting over 9K cvs repos into git repos does take some
> time.  I really feel that this move is worth the extended outage.
> 
> The tool you all will use to interact with git and the buildsystem is
> called "fedpkg".  It comes from the fedora-packager package.  There is a
> version of it available now in all active Fedora and EPEL releases,
> although it is built to work against our staging environment where we
> have been testing the setup for a while.  This setup is slightly
> different than the final version, but you can install it and poke around
> the help system to get a feel for what's going on.  Most of the make
> targets have made it over and are named the same; build, sources, srpm,
> etc...  Many of the targets can take arguments and options.  Where the
> make system used shell variables, fedpkg uses options and arguments.
> Each target takes a --help argument that will show any available
> options.  Fedpkg does not yet have a man page, that may be coming soon.
> 
> We're also going to be working on wiki pages to document the new stuff
> and archive the old stuff.  We're going to need help on this too, so if
> you want to pitch in, by all means!
> 
> As I mentioned above, this is an attempt.  We are trying this pretty
> early, which I wouldn't normally do.  However we have a good roll back
> plan.  We are going to keep the CVS server as is, although turned
> read-only during and after the dist-git rollout.  If something fails
> beyond reasonable repair with the dist-git attempt we will re-enable
> write access to the CVS server (after we branch it for Fedora 14).
> Otherwise we will keep it around, in some capacity, as a read-only
> reference point.
> 
> I'm certain we will run into some bumps along the way, and some wrinkles
> to iron out.  I ask that you are patient with us as we work through
> these, and as we either get updates pushed out of fedpkg or make
> adjustments to the git repos on the git server.  This transition has
> been a long time coming, and I'm really happy to be the one to make it
> happen.  Keep in mind that this will be the first iteration of our
> transition, and it will operate mostly the same as dist-cvs did with a
> few improvements.  Later on we will start to explore more interesting
> advancements such as automatic patch management with exploded sources,
> linking to upstream source repositories, automatic %changelog generation
> from git changelogs, or things I haven't even thought about.  Most of
> all, we won't be using CVS any more and that feels really good to me.
> 
> If you're curious about how the new system will work or have concerns,
> or want to help, you can reply to this email thread or find me on IRC as
> "Oxf13" (that's an o, not a zero).  If you run across bugs in fedpkg,
> you can file them in the fedora-packager hosted trac space
> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-packager/ or just find me on IRC as well.
> 
> Thanks again for your patience, both in waiting so long for us to make
> this move, and for bearing with us during the transition.
> 
> -- 
> Jesse Keating
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