On Wed, 14.07.10 16:25, Horst H. von Brand (vonbrand@xxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > Lennart Poettering <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Heya, > > > > as many of you probably know systemd got accepted as feature for F-14 by > > FESCO a few weeks back. > > Congratulations. > > Just a question: Why isn't it /sbin/systemd, /sbin/systemctl, > /sbin/systemd-notify, /usr/sbin/systemd-cgls? This definitely isn't > "normal-user" stuff (yes, I know that /sbin and /usr/sbin are on the > default $PATH now, but still). In the long run systemd should also augment gnome-session in a way: i.e. you would have one systemd running for the system and then one for each user/session. The details of this have not been completely hashed out but big parts of this are actually working already. This is very similar to how MacOS launchd does things. Or in other words: system and session managers do very very similar jobs, and we are planning to use the same codebase for them, like other OSes already do it. This is not on the plate for F14, but it will come eventually. Or in even other words: you can run those tools as user just fine, including /bin/systemd itself. If the PAM module of systemd is activated (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=612712) then you should have all the right perms to run systemd as a user. It's kinda neat actually, since the cgroup hierarchy of the user then simply becomes a subhierarchy of the main tree. i.e. "tree -d /cgroup/systemd" becomes even more superduper sexy... ;-) Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel