cups setup in fedora sucks bigtime. I had printer sharing working just fine in RH9 after a long uphill battle understanding how it worked. Imagine my surprise after the upgrade to see that my printer had disappeared from Mac OS X Print Center. Upgrading wiped all the cups folders especially the one containing the windows ppd files... So much as I hate to say it I have to go along with ESR on this one. Tony Grant -- www.tgds.net Library management software toolkit