On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Brandon Lozza <brandon@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Luke Macken wrote: >>> This report definitely conveys the shortcomings in our testing, however, >>> it does show us improving with each release. For Fedora 13, we implemented >>> the No Frozen Rawhide process with improved Critical Path policies, which >>> were definitely a success. With these enhanced procedures, along with the >>> upcoming implementation of AutoQA and the new Package update acceptance >>> criteria >>> (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_update_acceptance_criteria), I >>> think we'll see these numbers drastically improve in the future. >> >> Only because those numbers are taylored towards that very process (they >> measure the exact same things that process is going to enforce) and do not >> reflect the actual quality of the packages in any way. >> >> You can make really anything a "success" by measuring the very symptoms of >> the process and calling them a metric of "quality". >> >> The reasons for which Bodhi karma (especially in its current incarnation) is >> a completely broken indicator of quality have been pointed out in several >> past threads. > > I'll have to agree with Kevin. I can't how any of those numbers > represent the quality of anything. Well the only person I see mentioning quality is Kevin. And for some reason he is expecting it immediately when Luke said 3 things: 1) This was what he could initially see. 2) He thinks he sees improvement of what was measured, but he is interested in what would be better indicators. > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > -- Stephen J Smoogen. “The core skill of innovators is error recovery, not failure avoidance.” Randy Nelson, President of Pixar University. "We have a strategic plan. It's called doing things."" — Herb Kelleher, founder Southwest Airlines -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
