Backstory. I voluntarily adopted python-xlib when it was orphaned by its original maintainer as it is part of istanbul's depchain. The client side windows work that went into gtk has played havoc with how istanbul makes use of python-xlib in the F12 timeframe. Thanks to some other people, who understand how the new gtk client side windows stuff works were able to help me track down the most frequently reported crash condition and produced a patch for istanbul. I am very much appreciative of that help. But I think there are other problems associated with how python-xlib is being used in conjunction to the switch to client side windows in gtk Not just in istanbul, but in gmixer as well. I could really use some help reviewing the crash reports filed against python-xlib and the applications that use it, and see if we can't get the applications or python-xlib patched to work correctly with the gtk client side window stuff. -jef -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel