Hi, > That's always been how it's looked to me as well, FWIW. Given that we > default to using free world fonts and can't ship Microsoft's fonts it > would seem sensible to default to the autohinter rather than the BCI, in > my opinion. I definitely prefer the autohinter's interpretation of the > fonts I usually use (Deja Vu / Vera). I think it all boils down to this question: Do we want Fedora to provide full support for the TrueType standard (actually file format is much more appropriate) or not? > I'd say the principle should be that we should use whichever > non-encumbered method gives the closest rendering to that intended by > the font designer of our default font set for any particular release. >From what I know, the FreeType API doesn't allow to switch from one method to another on a per-font basis. But to move on and completely disable such a feature (bci) is a hefty price to pay. Would be nice if we could build a kind of a whitelist where bci would be used against this and that font and disabled otherwise. -Ilyes Gouta On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 21:51 +0200, drago01 wrote: >> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Gianluca Sforna <giallu@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Roberto Ragusa <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> >> I'm well aware that many people have different tastes about font >> >> readability and that I'm probably out of the majority (who >> >> wants "like on Windows" rendering). This awareness was actually >> >> the reason of my post: to have guys remember that not everyone >> >> welcomes the bci. >> >> >> > >> > Actually, one of the first questions I get from users switching from >> > Ubuntu is why our fonts look worse than theirs. >> > >> > As of today, I haven't a good answer, if anyone knows better I'd >> > really love to hear where we differ and if/how we plan to close the >> > gap. >> >> We neither do have the BCI nor the subpixel hinter enabled. >> >> The patents for the former expired but apparently some fonts look >> worse with it so we decided to disable it. >> (I have been running with it enabled for years and for me stuff does >> look _way_ better with the bci ... but well this is a subjective >> thing). > > AIUI, Microsoft fonts - Arial and the rest - are designed with BCI in > mind and look better that way. Free world fonts - Deja Vu and so on - > were designed with the autohinter in mind, and tend to look better that > way. > > That's always been how it's looked to me as well, FWIW. Given that we > default to using free world fonts and can't ship Microsoft's fonts it > would seem sensible to default to the autohinter rather than the BCI, in > my opinion. I definitely prefer the autohinter's interpretation of the > fonts I usually use (Deja Vu / Vera). > > I'd say the principle should be that we should use whichever > non-encumbered method gives the closest rendering to that intended by > the font designer of our default font set for any particular release. > -- > Adam Williamson > Fedora QA Community Monkey > IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org > http://www.happyassassin.net > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
