In article <AANLkTilubs_7uT0zBk_7RHcEOhLU9bX82Ni-B4189Vwy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> you wrote: > Wait a sec, when the timeout is zero, don't you get access to the grub > menu if you hold down the shift key? > > I always thought that was grub's behaviour, not my PC's behaviour... With an old Compaq machine, the BIOS errors with a 'Stuck key' message if I mash any of the modifiers. This stops the boot before GRUB. Granted it's running F11, but some BIOS's don't like keys being mashed at boot. --Ben -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel