On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 10:52 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 11:26 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 10:31 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > > > > > > What you'd loose with using flags is the "distro version" context. > > > > > > Erm, the bug would be filed against a particular version. EG the bug > > > has to be filed against Fedora 14 in order to be able to use flags to > > > mark it as a blocker for Fedora 14. Bugs filed against rawhide wouldn't > > > necessarily be able to set flags (although that's an interesting > > > discussion to have) > > > > This could give us a problem; remember, bugs in preupgrade and > > livecd-tools in F(N-1) can block F(N) (as is the case with F13, and was > > the case with F12). > > Right, those are sticky situations, but as you'll see, we're not > actually slipping the release or blocking it in anyway for this > preupgrade issue. We're just hoping that it gets fixed on F12 in time. That certainly wasn't my understanding when we set it as a release blocker, but we're getting off track; perhaps we should talk about that in the F13 retrospective. > > Overall, though, I'm fine with this idea. As I said last time we > > discussed it, my principal objection is that it hurts our efforts to get > > people to buy into the process in the short term, but I can live with > > the idea that in the long-term the benefits will be enough to counteract > > that. > > How does it hurt again? It's a new process for people to learn, just when we've more or less got them trained to use the current one =) We definitely had more people outside of QA nominating bugs as blockers in the 13 cycle than in 12. As I said, it's not a huge problem, just worth a note. Of course, if we switch to flags, we need to remember to update all documentation which refers to the current process. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel