On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >> They aren't voted in. The range voting method does not vote people in >> or out.. it determines who the majority of people are most likely to >> 'live' with. Basically it tries to remove the emotional political ends >> and find who the 'silent' majority want. How much it does that is >> dependant on other factors but that is what it (and the Debian voting >> system) aim for. > > I wonder how strong this effect really is. I think many of us are giving > degenerate all-or-0 votes, I know I am. >From the math, and the people I asked to look at it.. the all or nothings round out the extremes so it is harder to push a candidate that the majority would not find acceptable. I am not a fan of range voting. I don't like the complexity but I will agree that it looks for a way to remove extreme partisanship from elections. It does not remove partisanship after an election, and I think that it requires like all things a motivated electorate: motivated to run and motivated to vote. In any democracy it takes more than one person to make large changes (one person on a board, etc). And it takes more than marches, flurries of emails, and polls. It takes time and compromise to persuade others and bring about any lasting change... and that change will not ever be as radical as some would like it. >From what I have studied of human history and psychology this seems to be about how it always works. Groups grow more change averse over time, and those that do not fit in must move to the frontiers to find new places to work out their energy. Eventually though they too become the status quo that some other group will fight against. -- Stephen J Smoogen. “The core skill of innovators is error recovery, not failure avoidance.” Randy Nelson, President of Pixar University. "We have a strategic plan. It's called doing things."" — Herb Kelleher, founder Southwest Airlines -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel