Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

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On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Quentin Armitage
<Quentin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 12:45 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 13:37:11 -0400,
>>   Matthias Clasen <mclasen@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 10:08 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>> >
>> > > I don't see how using Mozilla trademarks provides significant benefit
>> > > to Fedora. It seems to mostly benefit Mozilla. I don't see why we should
>> > > be breaking our rules to help them.
>> >
>> >
>> > I think you are grossly misjudging the relative visibility and
>> > importance of the Firefox and Fedora brands... nobody knows what Fedora
>> > is, while most computer users will have at least heard about Firefox.
>>
>> Yeah, but "most computer users" isn't relevant. The question is about what
>> is relevant to Fedora users. Changing the name of Firefox will have little
>> affect on them since it is installed as the default web browser. Being able
>> to fix bugs in a timely manner on the other hand, is going to have a
>> significant affect on them.
> Not a nice idea, but, at least as a temporary workaround, could Fedora
> ship both a Firefox and an Iceweasel; Firefox complying with the
> trademark rules, and Iceweasel working as users would want it.
>
> Could the Fedora shipped Firefox even have a home page that says "Have
> you tried Iceweasel ..."? And bugs reported against Firefox could be
> closed with "Fixed in Iceweasel".

That is nonsense ... it just creates confusion and maintenance overhead.
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