On 04/23/2010 09:24 AM, Martin Stransky wrote: > On 04/23/2010 09:18 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> On 04/23/2010 09:03 AM, Martin Stransky wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> we're patching mozilla packages only for really critical issues because >>> of mozilla trademarks. We can't put any patch we want to the mozilla >>> package and ship it as 'Firefox' or 'Thunderbird'. >> >> Thanks for providing evidence of how trademarks are being applied to >> void the benefits of "open source". >> >> The obvious logical consequences of what you say would be >> * either to remove the packages you are referring to from Fedora because >> they are effectively unmaintainable. >> >> * or to remove the trademarks and re-brand the packages. >> >> /me ducks and hides for cover. > > No, you get it wrong. Well, c.f. freedom 3 on http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html You told us, you can't modify the sources and ship modified binaries => thunderbird and firefox are non-free, because of the trademarks Mozilla apply. => These packages should not be part of Fedora. > It's about cooperation, we work with upstream to > release one valid product. See the upstream bug, the fix may be included > in next security update. You are confusing their product with yours: Your product is broken and you are unable to maintain it because of legal reasons. Ralf -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel