Greetings, Not quite the blocker marathon from F-12, but 4 1/2 hours is a long time to review blocker bugs. Thanks to all those who helped manage the list ahead of time, or during the meeting. Meeting minutes are attached and available for reference at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2010-04-16/f-13-blocker-bug-review.2010-04-16-15.12.html Note to bug reporters and assignees ... please continue keeping your bugs up to date. The blocker lists are self-managed. Anyone can add or remove content. We rely on best judgment from the reporter and assignee for determining whether a bug impacts the final release criteria [1]. Thanks, James [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Final_Release_Criteria
=========================================== #fedora-bugzappers: F-13-Blocker bug review =========================================== Meeting started by jlaska at 15:12:15 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2010-04-16/f-13-blocker-bug-review.2010-04-16-15.12.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Gathering critmass ... (jlaska, 15:12:42) * Why are we here? (jlaska, 15:14:58) * Review the list of F13Blocker bugs to determine whether they put the Fedora 13 release criteria at risk (jlaska, 15:16:03) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Final_Release_Criteria (jlaska, 15:16:07) * LINK: F13Blocker bugs (sorted by component) - http://tinyurl.com/y4pa97n (jlaska, 15:16:46) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=569469 (jlaska, 15:17:31) * affects final criteria "The installer must be able to create and install to any workable partition layout using any file system offered in a default installer configuration, LVM, software, hardware or BIOS RAID, or combination of the above" (jlaska, 15:20:04) * ACTION: jlaska will retest to confirm there is a consistent reproducer (jlaska, 15:23:41) * AGREED: 569469 - If consistently reproduces, remains as a F13Blocker (jlaska, 15:24:43) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=534066 (jlaska, 15:25:08) * anaconda incorrectly sets the windows restore partition as windows partition (jlaska, 15:27:28) * AGREED: 534066 - remains as a F13Blocker - most systems ship with restore partitions and this would cause confusion when installing F13 along-side such systems (jlaska, 15:30:14) * ACTION: dlehman will discuss solutions for 534066 with clumens and hansg (jlaska, 15:30:46) * anaconda-devel agreement reach on hansg suggestion ... should start moving forward (jlaska, 15:31:54) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=577501 (jlaska, 15:31:58) * HELP: Are FTBFS bugs considered release blockers? (jlaska, 15:34:50) * AGREED: According to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FTBFS, 577501 will be moved to F13Target (jlaska, 15:36:44) * dlehman notes this will be pulled into future F13 anaconda build (jlaska, 15:36:56) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=568528 (jlaska, 15:37:49) * ACTION: adam proposed a new release criterion for capturing blocking SSH firewall as found in 568528 (jlaska, 15:44:37) * AGREED: 568528 accepted as a provisional blocker ... new release criterion will be drafted (jlaska, 15:44:56) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=568219 (jlaska, 15:45:07) * AGREED: 568219 - a valid F13Blocker bug impacting a reasonable partitioning layout (jlaska, 15:47:55) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=566259 (jlaska, 15:48:42) * AGREED: 566259 - not a blocker, only occurs when disconnecting from a telnet install (jlaska, 15:52:10) * HELP: Can we remove 'telnet' install support? Please? (jlaska, 15:53:41) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531629 (jlaska, 15:54:48) * 531629 - impacts the "reasonable" partition criteria, use default partition layout, edit /boot size (jlaska, 15:58:10) * AGREED: 531629 - is a valid F13Blocker (jlaska, 15:58:53) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=581820 (jlaska, 15:59:32) * AGREED: Skip remaining MODIFIED anaconda blocker bugs (jlaska, 16:06:41) * ACTION: jlaska to ping each MODIFIED anaconda bug for test feedback (jlaska, 16:06:50) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=577004 (jlaska, 16:07:03) * ACTION: adamw to test and confirm fix for 577004 (jlaska, 16:10:20) * AGREED: 577004 - is a valid F13Blocker resulting in a crashing app after a default install with no local system configuration (jlaska, 16:11:06) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=576060 (jlaska, 16:11:22) * LINK: http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=anaconda.git;a=commit;h=96445547da4dd5d92aa37a46b95472d63671888f (jlaska, 16:14:54) * ACTION: rhe to confirm the workaround resolves the reported problem in bug#578955 (jlaska, 16:16:20) * ACTION: jlaska to clone 576060 for expected F-14 anaconda fix (jlaska, 16:20:51) * AGREED: 576060 is a valid F13Blocker involving partition resize of dirty partitions (jlaska, 16:21:19) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=579515 (jlaska, 16:21:28) * LINK: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=158058 (adamw, 16:30:57) * the fixed esc and coolkey builds need to be submitted as updates (adamw, 16:34:33) * ACTION: adamw to track 567325 and 579515 to ensure the fixed builds are sent through as updates and ifd-egate is removed (adamw, 16:34:54) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549093 (jlaska, 16:35:44) * AGREED: 549093 hasn't been updated since 2009-12, need more info from assignee to assess impact to release criteria (jlaska, 16:40:11) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=571900 (jlaska, 16:40:22) * ACTION: adamw requesting clarification in 571900 - mixed reports of success and failure in the bug (jlaska, 16:46:01) * HELP: how to find the list of fully supported languages (jlaska, 16:47:10) * AGREED: 571900 will remain on the list awaiting clarification from report (jlaska, 16:49:15) * blocker meeting: on hold till 3pm EDT / 12pm PDT (adamw, 16:55:22) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=568106 (jlaska, 19:01:00) * ACTION: jlaska to ping pjones to provide reproducer for 568106 (jlaska, 19:06:02) * expected impact on server and non-graphical virt guests (jlaska, 19:08:00) * AGREED: revisit next week, hopefully after devel review (jlaska, 19:08:19) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=567325 (jlaska, 19:08:31) * AGREED: addressed earlier (see log) (jlaska, 19:08:58) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=577482 (jlaska, 19:09:01) * ACTION: 577482 - ON_QA awaiting retest (jlaska, 19:10:49) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=577059 (jlaska, 19:12:10) * AGREED: 577059 is a F13Blocker - virt installs with multiple CD's are expected to work (jlaska, 19:15:38) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=560628 (jlaska, 19:16:15) * one 855GM PASS result in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2010-04-15_Intel (jlaska, 19:23:42) * AGREED: need input from ajax to determine impact (jlaska, 19:24:10) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=560087 (jlaska, 19:27:38) * ACTION: jlaska will retest iSCSI during install https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_ISCSI_No_Authentication (jlaska, 19:30:06) * AGREED: will revisit 560087 next week, after updated testing against iSCSI installs (jlaska, 19:31:21) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=576156 (jlaska, 19:31:32) * HELP: does ABRT capture and offer reporting of kernel circular dependency problems (jlaska, 19:35:57) * AGREED: 576156 can move to F13Target, does not prevent RAID installs (jlaska, 19:37:02) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523024 (jlaska, 19:37:49) * AGREED: 523024 - not a F13Blocker bug - ksplice not a feature or critpath, unclear how impacts existing release criteria (jlaska, 19:41:40) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=571573 (jlaska, 19:41:49) * AGREED: 571573 - borderline criteria since libvirtd isn't enabled by default, but team agreed this was a F13Blocker (jlaska, 19:45:32) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=560628 (jlaska, 19:46:04) * LINK: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2010-April/006605.html (ajax, 19:47:22) * ACTION: ajax to build a kernel with the potential fix for this issue and post it in the bug (adamw, 19:54:37) * ACTION: adamw to try and find more people to test 8xx generation intel hardware on f13 in general (adamw, 19:54:51) * AGREED: leave 560628 on F13Blocker pending updated kernel results, and more test feedback from 855 chipsets (jlaska, 19:56:02) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572796 (jlaska, 19:57:43) * ACTION: jlaska to install KDE on ipw2200 laptop to test 572796 (jlaska, 20:03:25) * AGREED: 572796 will move to F13Target - not enough feedback to determine if this impacts all KDE + ipw2200 users (jlaska, 20:06:50) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=567978 (jlaska, 20:06:59) * AGREED: 567978 is a valid F13Blocker - affects all virt cases and may affect bare metal depending on router configuration (jlaska, 20:17:22) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=539471 (jlaska, 20:17:50) * AGREED: 539471 - not a F13Blocker, is a review request, we are past feature freeze and no criteria exist specific to package reviews (jlaska, 20:21:06) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=579686 (jlaska, 20:21:22) * AGREED: 579686 - not a F13Blocker. Workaround exists, move to F13Target (nice to have) (jlaska, 20:24:31) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=582590 (jlaska, 20:24:47) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F13_bugs#black-screen-on-kickstart-install (jlaska, 20:25:39) * AGREED: 582590 - ask for testing using updates.img from 577708 (jlaska, 20:28:33) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572148 (jlaska, 20:28:45) * AGREED: 572148 - affects preupgrade to F-13 and a valid F13Blocker (jlaska, 20:33:04) * positive test results, needs build + update for F-12 (jlaska, 20:33:37) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=575400 (jlaska, 20:33:45) * AGREED: 575400 - valid for F13Blocker (jlaska, 20:36:56) * awaiting bodhi update with new preupgrade package (jlaska, 20:37:50) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=571727 (jlaska, 20:37:58) * AGREED: 571727 - move to F13Target (jlaska, 20:40:07) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=567119 (jlaska, 20:40:19) * AGREED: 567119 - seems to no longer be an issue, close bug (jlaska, 20:42:42) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=577709 (jlaska, 20:42:53) * AGREED: 577790 move to F13Target, yum upgrade between releases is not a release criteria (jlaska, 20:50:17) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532308 (jlaska, 20:50:59) * AGREED: 532308 can move to F13Target - nice to have 3d on this adapter, 2d not affected (jlaska, 20:59:57) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522955 (jlaska, 21:00:14) * AGREED: request retesting of 522955 and leave on F13Blocker (jlaska, 21:02:50) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523914 (jlaska, 21:03:04) * AGREED: 523914 impacts F13 release criteria, remains on F13Blocker (jlaska, 21:08:57) * Peter to provide a fix, or update the bug with latest status (jlaska, 21:11:00) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530692 (jlaska, 21:11:40) * AGREED: not enough info on 530692 - awaiting updated test results (jlaska, 21:14:06) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=580423 (jlaska, 21:15:02) * ACTION: adamw to retest 580423 (jlaska, 21:20:55) * AGREED: 580423 - pending testing, may drop to F13Target (jlaska, 21:21:34) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=579756 (jlaska, 21:21:47) * AGREED: 579756 is a F13Blocker - awaiting upstream patch review (jlaska, 21:27:45) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=577468 (jlaska, 21:28:13) * AGREED: 577468 is a DUP of 579756 (jlaska, 21:30:49) Meeting ended at 21:32:36 UTC. Action Items ------------ * jlaska will retest to confirm there is a consistent reproducer * dlehman will discuss solutions for 534066 with clumens and hansg * adam proposed a new release criterion for capturing blocking SSH firewall as found in 568528 * jlaska to ping each MODIFIED anaconda bug for test feedback * adamw to test and confirm fix for 577004 * rhe to confirm the workaround resolves the reported problem in bug#578955 * jlaska to clone 576060 for expected F-14 anaconda fix * adamw to track 567325 and 579515 to ensure the fixed builds are sent through as updates and ifd-egate is removed * adamw requesting clarification in 571900 - mixed reports of success and failure in the bug * jlaska to ping pjones to provide reproducer for 568106 * 577482 - ON_QA awaiting retest * jlaska will retest iSCSI during install https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_ISCSI_No_Authentication * ajax to build a kernel with the potential fix for this issue and post it in the bug * adamw to try and find more people to test 8xx generation intel hardware on f13 in general * jlaska to install KDE on ipw2200 laptop to test 572796 * adamw to retest 580423 Action Items, by person ----------------------- * adamw * adamw to test and confirm fix for 577004 * adamw to track 567325 and 579515 to ensure the fixed builds are sent through as updates and ifd-egate is removed * adamw requesting clarification in 571900 - mixed reports of success and failure in the bug * adamw to try and find more people to test 8xx generation intel hardware on f13 in general * adamw to retest 580423 * ajax * ajax to build a kernel with the potential fix for this issue and post it in the bug * dlehman * dlehman will discuss solutions for 534066 with clumens and hansg * jlaska * jlaska will retest to confirm there is a consistent reproducer * jlaska to ping each MODIFIED anaconda bug for test feedback * jlaska to clone 576060 for expected F-14 anaconda fix * jlaska to ping pjones to provide reproducer for 568106 * jlaska will retest iSCSI during install https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_ISCSI_No_Authentication * jlaska to install KDE on ipw2200 laptop to test 572796 * **UNASSIGNED** * adam proposed a new release criterion for capturing blocking SSH firewall as found in 568528 * rhe to confirm the workaround resolves the reported problem in bug#578955 * 577482 - ON_QA awaiting retest People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * jlaska (460) * adamw (261) * Oxf13 (80) * buggbot (45) * ajax (33) * dlehman (15) * drago01_ (9) * jforbes (9) * notting (8) * zodbot (6) * airlied (3) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot
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