On Wed, 14 Apr 2010, Rex Dieter wrote: > are a lot of other packages and issues and bugs involved here. Reverting > even part or all as you suggest would have far bigger bad consequences than > helping That's what I thought, it's not just a matter of yumming older stuff back. Secondly, majority of endusers just update their systems, they have no glue how to revert some packages back. > fix the primary bug/app at issue here. yes, the question is exactly fixing the application or developing it further rather than fixing some crash. The whole application has been rewritten, with new user interface, dialogs and features. For example, entry name handling has changed completely. Now you can't sort names based on lastname in listing, nor edit them separately in edit dialog. There are tens of this kind of changes that behave differently, but also changes in feature set. Now, as storage has been separated, perhaps it could have been possible to provide this new rewritten version as pre-view package aside the old one. Or later on, have the old one as fallback to access that same functionality and provide feedback for the new one. > Fact is... qa'ing this, in updates-testing or kde-testing or whatever, and > finding the root cause(s), in part failed to catch this in time (prior to > push to stable updates). The best (and honestly only) way forward is to > better document things (userbase.kde.org ftw!) and to continue working > toward the goal noble of making everything just work. Based on previous one (to which i gave tens of feedback suggestions) it will take years, my guess is 4-6 years to get this current one back to stage where the old one was. I've a feeling that nobody is continously developing it in upstream. Changes come in this kind of rewrites and fall back to very slow period again. Tuju -- I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel