I am a gnome user and since had to do a new install yesterday of F13, I decided to give KDE a try, as I hadn't installed it in few years. Well, I won't get into why I didn't stay in KDE, but I will tell you what I liked about the initial desktop look/feel. Actually, backup a tad and go to the KDM login window. I liked the transparency*ish* look that it had, and it blew gdm out of the water. (Can KDM be installed with minimal deps and be used for that screen instead?) I also really liked the transparency*ish* look that the desktop had as well. By that, I mean the panel or at least the way it and the desktop looked. I know there are probably some configs that you can change to make stuff transparent and all that, but just not the same. If you havcen't seen it in a while, maybe you should install kde and login once and see what it's like. I don't mean having one panel for this or that, or what icons and stuff exist, but just the look/colors of it is all. This is NOT a flame war starter or anything else (which is why I kept things out), just my thoughts on the kde desktop look compared to what gnome has now. Just liked it better and hoped maybe gnome could lean that way as well. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
