On 03/11/2010 02:52 PM, Mat Booth wrote: > Saw this in today's updates: > > > Cleanup : cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-4.fc12.i686 > 195/254 > groupdel: group 'saslauth' does not exist > Non-fatal POSTUN scriptlet failure in rpm package cyrus-sasl > warning: %postun(cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-4.fc12.i686) scriptlet failed, exit status 6 This case is a nice example demonstrating several defects in "applying karma votes for QA": 1. The update package was sitting in "updates-testing" since 2010-02-22. 2. It did receive +3 karma points before being pushed to "updates" c.f. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-6.fc12 => There are people who claim to have tested it and not having noticed anything unusual. 3. During today's update I was immediately "greeted" by the same error message Mat cites above and BZ'ed it. c.f. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572399 4. Despite the fact this package had been pushed to "updates", I had been able to cast a karma vote on the package in bodhi. c.f. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-6.fc12 => A malfunction in bodhi 5. Unlike in many other similar cases before, the packager responded almost immediately and tried to provide an updated package (Thanks!). However, due to the fact update-candidates are not immediately pushed to "updates-testing", this package is not available in "updates-testing". => "karma voting on packages in updates-testing" is not applicable in situations like these (being directly affect by a bug, the bug still "being hot") Seemingly, other people who were affected by this bug did pick up the package from other sources (Most probably directly from bodhi) and provided feedback through BZ c.f. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572399 Think about it, FESCO! Ralf -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel