Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:29:42 -0600, Matthew wrote: > >>> There are just too many -devel packages and their dependencies to be ever >>> relevant to someone for multi-arch installs. Far more users install i686 on >>> 64-bit CPUs, and I have doubts that x86_64 installation users do much >>> development with i686 packages. At most they install 32-bit apps where >>> 64-bit builds aren't available or "less good". >> >> You forget people developing proprietary software... > > Why would development of proprietary software have different requirements > with regard to multilib installations? ...because said developers are more likely to be developing i686 packages on x86_64. Mostly, I disagree with your ratio of "people who need multilib" versus "people for whom multilib causes problems" differently. Probably because I need multilib and have never experienced multilib-related problems (or if I have, they were so trivial as to be thoroughly forgettable). >> Multilib is useful if you want to build the 32-bit version of >> something on an x86_64 box (and don't want to set up a full chroot >> / VM). > > The "don't want to" is questionable. Development of the 32-bit version > would still need a full 32-bit test installation. A test installation of /what you built/, yes. And you have that, since you just built it. (From that, I guess that you consider testing of a 32-bit program invalid unless done on a pure 32-bit kernel? I sure don't.) > It need not be the x86_64 box to do full multi-booting instead of > VM, but even multi-booting would be convenient enough, considering > how quickly something like Fedora can be installed. Typical > development is not trial-and-error compilation of both 64-bit and > 32-bit and alternating, but rather development on either arch till > something is ready to be built for and to be tested on a different > arch. You obviously have a different definition of "typical" than I do. For $DAYJOB we build both 32- and 64-bit at the same time and test both within the same test suite. That's my "typical". Given that Windows (go figure) is the only platform for which we consider 32- versus 64-bit to be different ports, that's not likely to change. Multi-booting is not only inconvenient, it isn't an option. Multilib *is* the method we use to build and test. End of story. -- Matthew Please do not quote my e-mail address unobfuscated in message bodies. -- Sorry, fresh out of .sigs. Maybe tomorrow. (paraphrased German saying) -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
