On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 01:38:09PM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> >> 20:45:42 <skvidal> cwickert: people threatening to leave should leave >> >> 20:45:48 <skvidal> orphan your packages and go >> >> 20:45:57 <skvidal> I'll be glad to clean up that mess >> >> While the phrasing may or may not be over the top, I read that more as: >> >> "We shouldn't be held hostage to various threats. We shouldn't be afraid to >> try something because a vocal few are ranting against it." >> >> I could, of course, be very wrong. However threatening to leave the project >> if various things aren't done exactly one's way isn't very respectful either. > >I can agree with that last sentence in parts. Please don't forget the >order of incidents, however. First the early-warning system with hundreds >of messages and multiple threads, which made several packagers think "do >they want to ruin the community packaging project?", and several expressed >their criticism. *Afterwards* the more concrete proposals that ignored the >criticism and provoked further reactions from packagers, since it is only >natural that in project of volunteers that not everyone accepts the >inevitable. In return, the FESCo and FPB member quoted above has opted for >"an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" tactics. With an additional blog >entry. And another one attempted at public humiliation even. Small correction: Seth is not on the Fedora Board. josh -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel