On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 6:08 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 20:47:40 -0500, Orcan wrote: > >> On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> > On 03/07/2010 06:47 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: >> >> >> >> Again I say "updates-testing"! Leaving php-5.3 in testing on F-11 for >> >> a couple months will warn the users what is coming up and gives them >> >> plenty of time to adapt. >> >> >> > >> > If you have a large codebase two months is barely enough time to even >> > big evaluating a move >> > >> >> Then make it 3 months, 4 months... Leave it in testing forever if you >> get too many complaints. But make it available for those who want it. > > You want to force the dist users to consider updates-testing. > That isn't nice, and you won't be successful with such a strategy. > "it is nice." is what users say, not me. I am talking as someone who has been using this strategy for a long time now. And I claim to be successful. On the other hand you are claiming that someone who would do what I did will not be successful. Well, experience wins. So far (in the last 15 monnths or so) I have gotten many good comments and thanks by using this strategy. I got 0 (zero) complaints about a particular update that shouldn't go into a stable release. The only complaints I got were about a few packages that I didn't have time to update in stable releases. People wanted updates. I am quite happy with the feedback I get from the people who use my packages from updates-testing. The feedback as in bodhi, in mailing lists, forums, private messages in forums, private emails etc. I don't claim that all my packages got feedback. But the major ones do, most of the time. And at various times, I fixed stuff based on feedback, on the enchancement updates I made in updates-testing of stable releases. Upstreams benefited from this too. Orcan -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
