Get ready to watch this happen in the M$ world. XP service pack 2 is due to break
a lot of things because of the security patches (which is just about all of the
service pack =P)
Ken
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Brenneis [mailto:sbrenneis@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 11:13 PM
> To: Development discussions related to Fedora Core
> Subject: Re: Kernel Stack Sizes
>
>
> On Wed, 2004-06-16 at 22:05, Peter Maas wrote:
> > > I have downloaded the linuxant kernels and installed
> them. The nVidia
> > > drivers and ndiswrapper work after a fashion. However, I
> just discovered
> > > that the sound drivers in FC2 no longer work as well. As
> much as I would
> > > like to reap the benefits of the 2.6 kernel, heigh-ho
> heigh-ho it's back
> > > to FC1 I go. Or maybe I'll try Mandrake.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your time.
> >
> > This is not a Mandrake, Redhat, Fedora, Suse, etc issue
> here, this is a,
> > After vanilla kernel 2.6.6, 4K stacks are enforced, Linus
> has spoken from on
> > high, the discussion about it being in the kernel is over.
> From this point
> > on its all about bugfixes, if you find a problem, notify
> the person in
> > charge of fixing it.
>
> I understand all of this on a philosophical level and from the kernel
> purist point of view. I guess my point is that the most
> beautiful kernel
> in the world doesn't do anyone any good if it won't operate
> the hardware
> that is being supplied with most of the systems being sold
> today. Isn't
> it the responsibility of the distributions to provide a full O/S that
> functions on as many systems as possible? Red Hat has certainly never
> been shy about distributing modified kernels before now. That
> is more a
> matter of survival than of purity.
>
> Another point: Linux has made great strides with the hardware
> vendors. A
> few short years ago, a company like nVidia would never have even
> considered producing a Linux driver, binary or otherwise. Does it make
> sense now to get up in their faces and say, in essence, "you
> will now do
> things to suit us?" Remember, they have little or no incentive to do
> anything for Linux.
>
> I'm not advocating that Linux should dumb down for the masses
> and end up
> being just another M$ Windows, but I think it is a wise team that
> recognizes every user of their O/S is not interested in being a kernel
> hacker. I have built my share of custom kernels to suit
> arcane hardware
> and I have even written some device drivers myself, but I don't have
> time to do that constantly and neither do the majority of Linux users.
>
> Just my $0.02.
>
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