On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sat, 6 Mar 2010, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> I thought to myself yesterday, 'what this long and fractious thread >> about update policy *really* needs is some unscientific and >> controversial numbers'. =) So, I ran a forum poll! Everyone loves those, >> right? >> >> Here it is: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=241710 >> >> I tried to present the poll in a very neutral way, and as far as I know, >> it hasn't been linked to from anywhere else; only regular forum members >> are likely to come across it. So it shouldn't be massively inherently >> biased, and has a reasonable shot of giving us a vague idea of what some >> Real Fedora Users think. >> >> The numbers do surprise me, to be honest. As I write this, it's 34-8 - >> that's over 80% - in favour of 'adventurous' updates. A lot of the >> replies make it clear that people really do see being 'bleeding edge' as >> being a part of Fedora's nature, and a part of the reason why they run >> it. I wouldn't honestly have expected that; I'd have expected much >> closer to a 50/50 split if anything. A lot of people explicitly say >> things like 'I run Fedora so I can have the latest stuff on my desktop, >> if I want a more conservative system I'll run CentOS'. >> >> No, the voting numbers aren't huge, but it's still some kind of data. I >> can promote the poll to the forum front page to try and get more input, >> if desired. >> >> What do people make of this? >> > > I don't think people realize what they're asking for. I'll just defer to > my favorite Ford quote: How comes? I think they do. I suspect those people voted what they want. > "If I had asked my customers what they wanted," Ford said, "they would > have said a faster horse." And the world would be a better place without cars but faster horses ;) Anyways, since we have now two automobile vendors in this discussion (one here and one in another thread (Toyota), cant tell exactly which one), let me add something from this sector: Inventions, new techs, better and safer cars comes from race cars, included into the mainstream (stable) series of consumer cars. > The best part of all of this is, it doesn't matter anymore. We've let > Fedora go completely directionless for years now. If we listen to the > users, they'll all tell us different things. Especially if you get a > sample size large enough (your poll isn't anywhere near large enough to be > scientific which is why you called it unscientific :) Quite interesting to me here is that i see only posts from people who wants something new in Fedora. The opposite of what the poll/voting determined. Telling that this voting/poll isn't representative ;) -- Best regards Thomas Dubium sapientiae initium -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel