On 02/27/2010 02:08 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Matthew Garrett wrote: >> At the point where you have a reported bug, you have a tester. > > Not necessarily. Sadly, there are people who report bugs and then don't read > their bugmail, ever. :-( Also does not apply to * sporadic bugs. * non-deterministic bugs (c.f. pulseaudio) * bugs caused by cross-effects of other packages (c.f. dbus, kernel-bugs' impact on applications) * users, who start to modify their use-case, because they desparately are searching for an escape (c.f. dnssec-conf) => No easy reproducer/tester, anymore. * bugs being closed as "FIXED UPSTREAM/FIXED RAWHIDE" - This kind of "resolution" means a bug is not being fixed in the distro. It means the maintainer is refusing to fix a bug a reporter is facing. Reporters will learn their lessons and leave this kind of maintainers alone. Less patient reporters will leave Fedora alone. * maintainers not responding in timely manners. In this case a system's setup (e.g. set of installed packages) might have changed sufficiently a reporter is not able to reproduce a bug. In extreme cases, the reporter might not even recall a report he issued. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel