Re: FESCo wants to ban direct stable pushes in Bodhi (urgent call for feedback)

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On 02/27/2010 02:08 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Matthew Garrett wrote:
>> At the point where you have a reported bug, you have a tester.
>
> Not necessarily. Sadly, there are people who report bugs and then don't read
> their bugmail, ever. :-(

Also does not apply to

* sporadic bugs.

* non-deterministic bugs (c.f. pulseaudio)

* bugs caused by cross-effects of other packages (c.f. dbus, 
kernel-bugs' impact on applications)

* users, who start to modify their use-case, because they desparately 
are searching for an escape (c.f. dnssec-conf)
=> No easy reproducer/tester, anymore.

* bugs being closed as "FIXED UPSTREAM/FIXED RAWHIDE" - This kind of 
"resolution" means a bug is not being fixed in the distro. It means the 
maintainer is refusing to fix a bug a reporter is facing. Reporters will 
learn their lessons and leave this kind of maintainers alone.
Less patient reporters will leave Fedora alone.

* maintainers not responding in timely manners. In this case a system's 
setup (e.g. set of installed packages) might have changed sufficiently a 
reporter is not able to reproduce a bug. In extreme cases, the reporter 
might not even recall a report he issued.



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