2009/11/18 Simo Sorce <ssorce@xxxxxxxxxx>: > On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 13:19 -0500, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: >> This significantly limits the number of users with powers to install >> signed software -- almost to the point of where it sounds like a fair >> trade-off. If someone has physical access to the machine, then heck -- >> it's not like they don't already effectively "own" it. > > Most of my users wouldn't be able to "own" it even if I let a root shell > open, but they would definitely be able to install or remove packages > using the GUI. > > The difference is huge. If I have physical access to your machine, I'll own it. I may have to use tools to get to the HDD, but it's only a question of time and dedication. Now, there can be situations where someone has access to the TTY console or GDM (usually when it's a VM guest or a machine behind a network KVM), but most often, if someone can log in on the console, they are sitting in front of the physical box, to which they have full access. Regards, -- McGill University IT Security Konstantin Ryabitsev Montréal, Québec -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list