Re: abrt / kernel oops issue

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On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 10:31 -0700, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote:
> Hello,
>    I've been running F12/rawhide from a preupgrade from F11 for a couple 
> weeks now. I've just recently noticed the abrt feature. I started 
> submitting the bugs it found in the kerneloops. Which has me wondering 
> couple things.
> 
>    #1 - I have many many kerneloops, each stacktrace/log snippet seems 
> fairly identical. I assume you would prefer not to get 20 identical abrt 
> submitted bugs? Or should I submit them all?
> 
>    #2 - When looking at the trace it has the following line(s):
> 
> Nov 10 09:15:57 iridium kernel: WARNING: at lib/list_debug.c:30 
> __list_add+0x68/0x81() (Tainted: G        W )
> 
> ...
> 
> Nov 10 09:15:57 iridium kernel: Pid: 2197, comm: Xorg Tainted: G 
> W  2.6.31.5-127.fc12.x86_64 #1
> 
> 
> I'm wondering why it is saying it is tainted.. or maybe Tainted: G mean 
> Good?? I don't have any closed source modules loaded as far as I know. 
> Unless Virtualbox is closed source but I didn't think it was. Virtualbox 
> isn't running when this happens, though the module seems to be loaded.

If you have an oops or BUG of any sort, I think that sets the taint flag
for further oops reports, because after the first one you can't really
trust that the stacktrace or internal kernel structures aren't
corrupted.  Most of the time they aren't, but you simply can't trust
that.  So I'd expect the first one to be untainted, and then subsequent
oops reports to have the taint flag set.

Of course if you start loading random kernel modules that didn't come
with the kernel itself, you can also taint the kernel.  If you have
staging drivers loaded, you'll have the taint_crap flag set because
staging drivers are crap.

Dan

> 
>    #3 Validity of the bugs it is finding... It calls the following a 
> kerneloops...
> 
> > Nov 11 16:56:41 iridium gnome-session[2259]: WARNING: Could not parse desktop file /etc/xdg/autostart/network-manager-netbook.desktop: Key file does not have key 'Name'
> > Nov 11 16:56:41 iridium gnome-session[2259]: WARNING: could not read /etc/xdg/autostart/network-manager-netbook.desktop
> > Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: executing set pll
> > Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: executing set crtc timing
> > Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: [drm] TMDS-15: set mode  25
> > Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: executing set pll
> > Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: executing set crtc timing
> > Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: [drm] TMDS-11: set mode  2f
> > Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: fuse init (API version 7.12)
> > Nov 11 16:56:43 iridium pulseaudio[2406]: pid.c: Daemon already running.
> > Nov 11 16:56:46 iridium restorecond: Unable to watch (/home/****/public_html/*) No such file or directory
> 
> do I submit this anyway?
> 
> 
> Thanks, just rying to do my part without burying you guys in senseless 
> bug reports.
> 

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