Hi, Can I suggest a way to make these "app A vs. app B" threads a lot less long - There's really no point taking apps with thousands of features and trying to compare them by everyone posting mail saying "these are the three features I love!" "this is the bug that makes it unusable!" If you have a 1 million lines of code app and another 1 million lines of code app, you want to decide which one to use based on the million lines, not on the basis of a bug or feature that may be addressed by changing 3 lines, or 3000. If you do that you end up changing the default app every week as the bugs and features come and go, among other things. And it makes these threads really long. ;-) Havoc