On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 11:10:51AM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: >Jeff Garzik (jgarzik@xxxxxxxxx) said: >> But you're dodging the larger point -- Fedora has, de facto, demoted >> big endian support in its entirety to a second-hand effort, rather >> than distributed the workload much more widely. Given M package >> maintainers and N secondary-platform volunteers, it is clear M > N >> by orders of magnitude. > >Sure, but it's not like M, in a sizeable percentage of cases, is particularly >useful in this regard. > >In any case: > >- ppc has no one looking at the actual bugs in any case. LiveCDs have > been broken on PPC for *years*, for example, and no one cares. Graphics > drivers have been broken on PPC throughout the F11 release and no one > cares. Going to counter this one. I look at bugs. I know David look(s/ed) at bugs. We just can't get to all of them. This echos your point about community, but I didn't want you to get away with saying that nobody is trying. LiveCDs are pretty useless because demand for them is non-existent. So yes, it is broken and I don't think it works even after some of the recent fixes I sent to livecd-tools. So yeah, no one cares on that. I know I don't, mostly because I'm actually busy with the other stuff. I file bugs on graphics drivers regularly. I know Dave A has been pretty great about helping me get him info to fix the Radeon stuff. I have a bug opened against nouveau right now as well and Ben has been helpful there too (need to get back to that.) If you mean some other driver, then yeah maybe. I can only test/file bugs on hardware I have. >that; well, I don't think Fedora necessarily should be a charity for cases >there's no community for. s/no/a small. Pretending we don't exist isn't exactly kind, but I will admit the few of us that participate are limited in time and resources. josh -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list