On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 00:11 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 29.09.09 22:46, Kevin Kofler (kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > Behind GStreamer, sure. Behind Phonon (and thus also Phonon-GStreamer), not > > so much. They're currently using it, but there are people working on the Qt > > Mobility project talking about replacing Phonon with something else (another > > abstraction layer, again around native backends (GStreamer in the GNU/Linux > > case), I really don't see what the advantage would be over Phonon). > > Haha. So the major 'advantage' of Phonon that it would allow replacing > the backends as time progresses without breaking the KDE apps using > them now officially is proven to be bogus. The KDE/Qt folks were so > afraid of a media engine breaking API so that they created their > abstraction thing and now break API of that one more often then the > media engines themselves do. > > Do I hear an "I told you so!"? > > Abstractionitis is an illness, not a remedy. whatever the validity of this, it rather looks like sandbagging the intended discussion, and doesn't seem to be directly relevant to Fedora development. perhaps it should be discussed on a more appropriate list, or privately with Kevin - at the very least, in a separate thread. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list