Hello Andy, > But if the plan is to create this Core / Extras > discontiguity anyway, and now RH seriously considers to move KDE into the > ghetto, then this is "shrinking the core distribution". The fact that Red Hat has *not* yet proposed such a move has stopped me from starting to shout very loudly about this issue. The only RH employee who has supported such a move afaict is Warren, but that was his personal opinion. I am also not a great proponent of a substantial reduction of Core. Like Jos I think a distro should be somewhat complete wrt the packages offered. Of course removing stale packages is a good idea. But I am afraid the redundancy in Core is not of such extend that Core can be reduced substantially. I find the suggestion to remove KDE from Core ridiculous, as it affects a significant part of the user base. A rather arrogant proposal from a few Gnome centered people. Maybe I should suggest to keep KDE in Core and move Gnome to Extras in return. Note that I am rather neutral on which of those desktops is the best. I've been using Gnome the last couple of months, but before I used KDE on a regular basis. I think there is place for both in Core, as well as for one or two of the lightweight desktop environments/window managers. > Basically, my suggestion is that "core" should be the minimum userspace stuff > around the kernel that is needed in almost all scenarios. Everything else is > in Extras, or you can make another repo layer Fedora GDesktop which is > Core+Xorg+Gnome. As you might understand I disagree. The current size of Core is fine with me. People with concerns about downloading too much stuff when using the ISOs should investigate a bit on dependencies and download just the packages they need for and install from HD or via NFS. Or do an FTP installation using your local mirror. Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research