On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:27:53PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > > On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 22:18 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > On 08/18/2009 10:15 PM, Mel Chua wrote: > > > >>> PS: I know this is last-minute notice - sorry about that. We're still > > > >>> learning how to do things on a schedule, and next time around we'll put > > > >>> the call out here much earlier. > > > >> > > > >> Is there a particular reason today is the last day instead of some date > > > >> closer to the release? > > > > > > > > We need to brief Ambassadors on Talking Points at Beta release (9/22) so > > > > they need to be complete by then, so we have to freeze the list asap to > > > > give us enough time to find writers, and give the writers enough time to > > > > write them. > > > > (http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-marketing-tasks.html) > > > > > > > > (Feel free to push back if this schedule sounds unreasonable, btw; it > > > > probably could use some patches for the next cycle in terms of having > > > > more time for getting dev feedback.) > > > > > > The schedule itself might have been fine but it still looks rather early > > > to me. If you want to collect feedback from developers, one day is > > > definitely not going to be enough. Atleast three days or so needs to be > > > provided and you usually need more than one reminder to get as much > > > feedback as you can. Otherwise you are going to end up with a rather > > > small list which is not meaningful. > > > > To a first approximation, the relevant information should already be in > > the feature pages, no ? I don't think it is wise to establish the > > feature process as painfully as we've done over the last few releases, > > only to then start new, different initiatives to collect marketing > > talking points... > > > > I think the point is to take the technical feature list and sort of run a > filter around it so it's more general purpose / markety. Additionally I > don't see any need to tie talking points and marketing directly to the > feature list in a 1:1 because we may miss things. That's fairly dead on, Mike. We can include an item beyond the feature list if there's a compelling story to tell the appropriate audience about that item. These talking points become the basis for Ambassadors to talk to their local communities, I often refer to them in interviews with press, and so forth. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list