Hello everybody, I was tracing a problem that was no reproducible getting "Error activating XKB configuration" as I'm not the only one who got this error, just google for it and see some times is could be a result of broken language files https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487583 but it's very difficult to trace the problem https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508628 what do we want ? 1. we want to a way to select a system wide layout 2. we want to allow users to override that (per-user layout) the problem ? issues solving #1 rhpl - used by fedora-setup-keyboard at compile time [is the any other usage ?] this mean that any update to rhpl needs a rebuild for fedora-setup-keyboard so does koji knows this ? after #487583, rhpl was updated rhpl to put ara and make the variant qwerty passed to ara not us this could result that one can't add new users in first login because the default layout is Arabic fedora-setup-keyboard - beside building issue there is another issue it reads /etc/sysconfig/keyboard which could contain something like KEYTABLE="ar-qwerty" [from rhpl] or detailed parameters like LAYOUT, OPTIONS and VARIANT the question is what happened if both are specified ? the second question which is related to #487583 while setxkbmap manual says it does not support per-layout variants does this apply to fedora-setup-keyboard (and is this inherited from evdev hal interface) if not then it rhpl should be updated to be us,ara with variants=",querty" and if possible change it to be "layout1\tvariant1,layout2\tvariant2" or something like that xkeyboard-config - the arabic part in it, is it difficult to make it defaults to qwerty so that KEYTABLE="ar-qwerty" needs no variants at all, and ar-azerty will be just coupled with fr,ara instead. how to test this ? gnome and gdm should not be used to test this I suggest xfce to test this stage [I used autologin in gdm to stop it from playing withouts] because both gdm and gnome interferes this process --------------------- issues solving #2 gdm - to what options ? unable to login in many cases, for example after #487583 they updated rhpl to put ara first but gdm did not allow me to switch using shifts or shift caps or alt+shift and using a special debug stubs I injected into libgnomekbd, it seems that gdm does not set options like grp:alt_shift_toggle, it just set layouts, gnome - in general we have the following components gnome-settings-daemon - which activates the layout based on gconf /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd this is the one that shows that dialog in the screenshot control-center - contains gnome-keyboard-properties libgnomekbd - the library that talks to libxklavier and converts to gconf libxklavier - the back end library used by gnome related apps it seems that there is a bug libgnomekbd, because it though that the comma in ara,us should be escaped as it wrote "ara\,us" to gconf when I set multiple variants in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard or rhpl so even though libxklavier and thus libgnomekbd supports multiple variants it failed to import it from the current X -------------- misc issues xorg-x11-utils - contains xprop which is used like this xprop -root | grep XKB xorg-x11-xkb-utils - contains setxkbmap - the man page says that it takes only one single variant not a list of variants does setxkbmap supports multiple variants but it's not documented or it's not supported if it's the first then its man page should be updated with examples it it does not support it how difficult is it to make it support it -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list