Charles Butterfield wrote: >... Does it help if more people (dis)agree? I will add my voice. - I like a root login option, especially when first setting up the system, as it is helpful to do things as root. I consciously choose to use root and realize that I MYSELF could be exposing MY OWN computer to risks. I ALWAYS uncomment %wheel in sudoers and add myself to the wheel group, but just to get to do this is sometimes difficult, as it gets constantly more awkward to even have the privileges to edit sudoers (fortunately, fedora is one of the more permissive distros with regard to editing sudoers). It is ESSENTIAL that a user be able to modify system settings on his OWN computer, if he chooses to do so. I fully support your outrage. Luckily, as a kde user, kdm has not been hit my the "root nazi" bug, so I am not hugely affected. - Since about fedora 10, selinux is working so well that I no longer need to disable it at all, which I used to have to do. I am able to do everything I need to do without problems and I appreciate the extra security it might provide to my system, and hence, to my data and online experience. It is easy to disable, too, simply by editing grub's kernel boot line or using the gui interface. I cannot support your rage, as it IS working well and is so easily disabled. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list