On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen<bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Does no one remember what happened last time the CD ball was dropped? Lets not repeat history just for fun. We have been down this road before, it > was ugly and only lasted one release. Torrent tracker numbers BTW do not always tell the truth. In many cases in these less fortunate areas one person > will download the ISO images, then make CDs for any one in the surrounding villages. Sneakernet is alive and well. I asked about this topic a few minutes > ago in the #fedora-social IRC channel because we seemed to have a pretty diverse mix of people chatting. There was a resounding response that the > CDs need to be kept. How do we do a better job getting an accurate picture of install media usage patterns? To be honest I don't have a good idea on how to trend completely sneakernet activity..even as a historic relative measurement against itself. If the resulting installs never touch a network for updates, I don't have a way to see them at all. If you have ideas I'm all ears. Matt's attempt at trending it is just a starting point. We could do more, and I'm willing to help build up trendable metrics from the logs. But we need to agree that the metrics will help us make decisions as to how to support niche media. Is there a need to define a concept of secondary or legacy media for niche media? I don't have a problem keeping niche media in production (if there's room for it in our infrastructure), but I'd like to see a process that empowered the users and supporters of the media target to take more responsibility for it during releases inside the "Fedora" process. -jef -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list