Re: the end of life for flash player (HTML5)

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On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Gregory Maxwell<gmaxwell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 2009/6/8 Kelly Miller <lightsolphoenix@xxxxxxxxx>:
>> Thanks to Apple, that isn't going to be happening.  Apple's pushing for the
>> required default video codec to be the aforementioned nonfree MPEG4/H.264
>> codec, and they don't seem to care whether it can be shipped by anybody
>> else.
>
> Perhaps pedantry but for the sake of accuracy:
>
> Some of the patent holders in the MPEG-LA patent pool (Apple and
> Nokia) pushed hard for there to be no royalty-free baseline
> recommended in the standard. I'm not aware of anyone, Apple included,
> pushing for H.264 in the standard since the adoption of an encumbered
> format as formal formal default is simply a complete non-starter.
>
> What Apple has done is ship systems which can only play H.264 using
> the video tag out of the box. You could accurately accuse Apple of
> pushing for H.264 as a defacto standard, but not a "required default".
>
> For desktop Safari usage Ogg/Theora+Vorbis support can be added by
> installing the XiphQT codec package. While requiring an install was
> unfortunate flash itself is an existence proof that required
> installations don't make wide adoption impossible.  The apple desktops
> also have decent Java support and websites can fall back to java
> playback. (Theoretically Flash playback of Ogg/Theora is also possible
> now; but the intersection of Flash gurus and free software developers
> is nearly the empty set)

Or you can simply ship provide multiple video streams and switch them
based on the useragent. (this is very likely to be the end result,
even thought it sucks).

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