Just wanted to run this by the group to make sure it's desired before I start working on it... I've been dipping my toes into packaging things for Fedora lately, and one thing that feels a bit awkward is that the packaging guidelines are full of boilerplate like: "Use this when a desktop entry has a 'MimeType key. %post update-desktop-database &> /dev/null || : %postun update-desktop-database &> /dev/null || :" "noarch packages The following macros must be used at the top of the spec file to determine the correct installation paths: %{!?tcl_version: %global tcl_version %(echo 'puts $tcl_version' | tclsh)} %{!?tcl_sitelib: %global tcl_sitelib %{_datadir}/tcl%{tcl_version}}" "If you are installing anything into the global site_packages directory, use the following trick. First, define python_sitelib at the top of your specfile: %{!?python_sitelib: %global python_sitelib %(%{__python} -c "from distutils.sysconfig import get_python_lib; print get_python_lib()")}" Heck, there's an entire page full of these: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ScriptletSnippets it seems to me that this is a bit of a silly approach - it encourages cut and paste errors (or people cutting and pasting non-canonical blocks from other people's spec files), it just looks bad in spec files, and if any of those snippets happens to need to be changed a bit - say, the syntax for updating the desktop database changes, or something - we'd have to adjust them in seven zillion different spec files. It seems to me it'd make sense to convert all these kinds of snippets into macros. Am I right, or is there a reason against doing this? If I'm right, I'm happy to work on this and contribute it as patches to the relevant packages, or as a new package in itself, or something. Where should such macros go? Should we have a separate package for them which is brought in when you install the development environment package set? Or should they be added to the appropriate -devel packages - e.g., Tcl snippets should be turned into a /etc/rpm/macros.tcl that's in the tcl-devel package? Or a combination of the two? Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list