-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:26:12 +0200 > From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Maintainer Responsibilities > To: fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx > Message-ID: <h09e5k$aj1$2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Your misunderstanding is there: it's US maintainers that are helping YOU > reporters by fixing your bugs. If you think you don't need our help because > you don't care about the bug anyway, we can just close it as > INSUFFICIENT_DATA and stop there. > > Kevin Kofler YOU missunderstand You really believe a normal user ever registers at bugzilla for every piece of software he uses? The truth is the MOST upstream-bugzillas are fu**ing ignored and/or arrogant and thats the reason why i gave up in the meantime because i have better things to do as registering and be ignored or in the best cases i must discuss per private mail that some stupid upstream-developer repopens a bug after understanding "oh yes this is really a bug" PHP: http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=42836 Bogus? Not a problem in php when it mixes per-host-configuration? I'm php-developer and serveradmin for long enough to be sure that this IS a bug OK PHP6 is pre-alpha but thats not the point - how will tey get away them They do not need help? the do not got help upstream any longer You can be sure if a @redhat.com-address or a known maintainer reports this it would not be closed as "bogus". For unknown users the developers have a reflex "close as soon as possible" PHP: http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=42077 Closed with "read why there in the archive" and at this time you could not comment a closed bug and you hace to mail this crazy peopole until he understands this is a bug - sorry but if this would not be a showstopper for our whole company if released this way i would se "leave me fuck in peace and do what you want" Firefox: I NEVER got any response from upstream bugzilla https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=495196 I do not like to search older ones but if i trie to report bugs there should be any response and i got never ever any response from firefox-bugzilla eaccelerator: http://eaccelerator.net/ticket/307 WTF - New snapshot introduces a new problem, repoorted a year ago, a workaround is no solution and its not really funny to get ignored in such way ffmpeg-php https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2017954&group_id=122353&atid=693224 does not compile after ffmpeg-upgrade from livna, livna-bugtracker told i should make a bugreport against upstream and they ignores it since nearly a year, some other reporters got "svn has fixes" but svn-version also not compiles _____________________________ Only in the last 2 years i can search a lot of such frustrating things and only the time spent for registering in the bugzillas should be used for drink some beer to make more sense and yes it is a BIG different if a nobody or a well known maintainer from a distribution reports something upstream So please leave me in peace with "report upstream" and take the love for the software and help from users that way they are able and willing to give or you lose them in many cases with no response in rh-bugzilla AND do not get the bug reported upstream -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkooi9AACgkQhmBjz394AnnT1QCglPGy7GBT8AfmAC/XIsXOKyQM ayAAn2xp4iRoeRcJsEUcgBSdMMuZ28eN =nhRF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
