I think a package maintainers responsibilities should be to incorporate any back-ported bug fixes, and ensure the package is reasonably fit for end users... if they can't do this, I don't think they should be packaging that software (whether it be due to individual skill set, or simply the upstream state). I wish Bugzilla had a way to track bugs in different instances of itself, that way once a package maintainer has figured out it's not a packaging issue, he can simply send it upstream, and have it all tracked as one bug from there - propagating that to whatever other instances have linked to it (read other distros with the same bug). This would simplify a lot of things for maintainers, and save them a lot of time also. Things like the auto-crash handler will help with users that don't wish to learn technical details, with the debugfs simplifying everything fairly well to ensure bug reports are useful. This often results in repeated bug reports though, so I hope they take lessons learned from apport into account here. Overall, I do not believe that package maintainers need to necessarily be programmers, and I believe upstream should have some say in most bug fixes. Of course it helps if they actually know the software, rather than just being competent with the packaging tools, but that starts to raise the barrier for contribution, so I don't know if requiring that is a good idea... what I state above goes a long way to ensuring they don't need to be programmers though. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list