On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 07:23:05AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > Steven M. Parrish wrote: > >> Many people have mentioned that it is not right to ask the users to >> file their bug reports upstream. I ask why not? > > Let me summarize what I already wrote elsewhere in this thread: > * Users aren't necessarily developers. > * Users aren't necessarily interested in getting involved upstream. > * Users are reporting bugs against your product (your package in > Fedora), not against upstream's work (somebody else's product). > > > Let me try an analogy: How do you handle defects/malfunctions with your > car? > > You'll visit your car dealer/a garage and report the issue to them. > You'll expect them to identify the problem and to take appropriate steps > to solve your issue. Let me try another analogy: How do you handle health problems? You'll visit your doctor. You'll expect him to identify the problem and to take appropriate steps to solve your issue--that may well be just him sending you to a specialist. Would you expect your doctor to serve as a proxy between you and the specialist? Or even substitute you for checkup? I wouldn't. > You don't expect them to direct you to the car's > manufacturer or a component manufacturer and to discuss technical > details you have no knowledge about with them ("Is the stuttering engine > cause by triac 7 in a component A you haven't heard about before" or by > the hall sensor in component B you also haven't heard about before). > Who spoke about technical details? Have you ever been asked to look into the source code of some project? I don't think so. An upstream developer can ask better/more detailed questions than a packager, but that's only to be expected. Btw, I'm really interested to hear why answering questions of an upstream developer through a packager as a proxy is better than answering the same questions directly... David -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list