On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 08:55:48AM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: >On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 08:15:32PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: >> We are facing some real limitations on our turn around time for >> things at the moment and they are only going to get worse as we have >> newer releases that will get the delta rpms. At the same time, the >> same people are getting raked over the coals for not getting bits >> out fast enough. >> >> We are working on this from a rel-eng standpoint, but advocating for >> a bit of discretion on what should be pushed as an update is not >> entirely a bad thing. Personally, I would love it if package >> maintainers slowed down a bit. But it's not an end solution. >> >> So certainly the leadership, defined as FESCo and FPB, is not in >> conflict with the contributor's apparent direction. As far as I can >> see, they haven't made a statement either way. If there is a group >> that was pushing for something that ran contrary, it was Rel-Eng. >> And given that Jesse and I both just said we're going to basically >> stop begging people to slow down on updates, I think even that group >> is trying to figure out a way to make things better. Hell, that's >> partly what this FAD is all about. > >If the FAD identifies some tangibles (hardware, etc.) that would help >alleviate some of the time problems, I can tell you that Spot and I >will do our best to procure them. From what I've heard others >describe up until now, it doesn't seem like there's one clear >roadblock in that regard -- just a huge mountain of tasks that our >current systems have to chug through for composing, and no matter how >you slice it, it takes a lot of time and I/O bandwidth. Yep. As a simple test, We'd like to do some experiments to see if running updates pushes and rawhide composes on separate boxen makes things worse or better or about the same. I don't think we need additional procured hardware for that, just a cloned guest which I already have a ticket opened for. Oh, and time. Always need time. If you or spot could procure time, let me know ;) josh -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
