On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 01:59:06PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 14:38 +0200, Denis Leroy wrote: > > On 05/19/2009 12:39 PM, David Woodhouse wrote: > > > I don't much like the reasons that we have to do it -- but I do agree > > > that it's best just to stay out of the political debate by not shipping > > > _any_ flags. > > > > Will you also stay out of the profanity debate and blacklist all > > packages contains any textual occurrence of a profane word ? Or ship > > them in a separate "-adult" subpackage ? This is completely ridiculous, > > and the fact you are a member of FeSCO is plain scary. This can only be > > excused by lack of time and/or interest to think about a better solution. > > I believe we do remove profanity where it's visible to the user, such as > in fortune files. We also removed the 'random image' screensaver, didn't > we? > > I don't really _approve_ of those changes, just as I don't really > approve of removing flags. But it's not that I disagree with the Fedora > decision -- it's more that I disagree with the screwed-up society which > makes it necessary. I do reluctantly concede that it's the most > appropriate decision for Fedora. As did an overwhelming majority of my > colleagues on FESCo, iirc. > > > Worst of all, this "policy" is forced on us, without any sort of valid > > legal reason for it, or even chance for discussion on the mailing list. > > I'm sorry if that impression was given. I thought we actually postponed > the discussion and vote on it for a week so that it could get more > visibility -- do I misremember that? > > And my understanding is that there _is_ a valid legal reason for it. > Distributing Fedora in some countries is _illegal_ if it contains > certain flags, and can lead to extremely uncomfortable repercussions. And since I was asked for my opinion, I think David stated it pretty clearly. But frankly I don't think my opinion is needed or, indeed, that relevant. I do feel strongly that FESCo, as a community elected body, needs to be empowered to make these kinds of decisions without worrying about the FPL second-guessing them constantly. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
