Bill Nottingham wrote:
nodata (lsof@xxxxxxxxxxxx) said:
If you were interested in writing one I think that would be most welcome
and responded to warmly.
Last time I asked, I was told that no such cli interface existed, and
that it was planned. I have no real life experience of using this tool,
nor how it fits into the big picture. I too would welcome an article,
but I'm not the right person to write it.
There is currently cnetworkmanager, written by an OpenSUSE developer.
However, it's python, and therefore may not be suitable for *all*
command-line/console-based usage (specifically, I'd love ifup/ifdown
to be able to kick NM if it's running to DTRT, but I don't intend to
require python to do so). I suspect a C/C++ version will be
written if someone has the time/inclination.
I did start a C version (for a very short time, I gave up after just
listing the networks). If anyone is actually interested in pursuing
this I may be able to start up again, depending on motivation.
http://nm-cli.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/nm-cli/src/
It's about 17 months old, I doubt it works.
Regarding topic, though I agree that a number of his points are
invalid, in general things are almost getting automated to the point
where they are confusing. For example, for a while ago udev scripts
were calling ifconfig down on interfaces, and I had to explain to a
friend of mine why this was happening (at the time, I didn't even know
it was udev but suspected it). Another time I saw talk of using udev
to start initscritps (bluetooth iirc), and though i don't object to
this is if is done in some standardized way with a framework set
around it, the way it was being hacked out for F11 seemed backwards
(usually initscripts load modules) and actually made me cringe.
I actually don't object to "doing the right thing" (desktop control of
mounting media, bluetooth, keyboards etc...), but it must be done in a
way that doesn't confound a large percentage of long time linux users.
Bill
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