On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 01:18 -0400, Dimi Paun wrote: > On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 00:25 -0400, Andrew Overholt wrote: > > Also, why is it so hard to install with the Update > > Manager? I'm curious both as a Fedora maintainer and an upstream > > person. > > OK, so this is a partial story (now that I have things working, > I can not easily reproduce all problems). But check this out. > > Problem: you are a Java developer and need the Web Server Tools > > 1. You go to Software Updates ... > 2. There's no WST anywhere, so you click on "Manage Sites", which > looks something like this: > http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/52/screenshotavailablesoft.png > > WTF?!? Which one do I pick? You try to parse the URLs, there's > no "web" in there it seems. > > 3. So you say, OK, let's add the site: > http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2415/screenshotaddsite.png > > Great, but where do I find it, how? You go on the eclipse.org > site, you click around, the information is hard to find. > You find lots of complicated download pages, you lose a lot of > time finding the silly URL, finally you discover it on the > download page and wonder why you didn't find it the first 2-3 > times you looked at it. > > 4. You add the site, and try to install the WST. You expand it > and you see this: > http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/881/screenshotsoftwareupdat.png > > Dali? Patch Features? WTF?!? All I want are the Web tools! > > 5. So you expand one more level to try to find what you're looking for: > http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/881/screenshotsoftwareupdat.png > > Holly crap! What do you pick from there? This would make a grown > man cry :) So you go and pick a few safe things that seem reasonable > (Java EE Developer Tools, Eclipse XML Editor and Tools, etc) > > 6. Then you click "Install": > http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5549/screenshotprogressinfor.png > > This is great. So it looks up dependencies, etc. But wait! > At the end of the install, I get a small dialog telling me that the > install failed due to missing dependencies (despite the dependency > check saying it was OK)! You parse the cryptic names, and install > some EMF that might seem to help. Try again. Fail! Add GFE, that > might help. Fail. Similar error at the _end_ of the install. > > WTF? What next? Maybe instead of installing all 4 features at once, > lets try to do it one by one. What do you know, that works... > > As I was writing this, I realized that maybe some of the problems stem > from the fact that I started with a non-pristine .eclipse dir. > > So I've erased it, and tried again: > - add the WST project site > - select the 4 components I am interested in > - click install: > http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4483/screenshotinstall.png > > What am I supposed to do next? > > The whole thing is an interaction disaster. When I add a site it > should automatically read some metadata and add any dependencies > automatically, etc, etc. This is DLL/RPM/you-name-it hell all > over again. I think I had similar problems. You might want to check out a series of posts on Eclipse setup issues in the Fedora-list list starting on November 30th, 2008. The "solved" thread starts on December 4th, 2008. You might also want to check out https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474509 It gives a more concise description, but without some of the background information. Once I installed Eclipse properly, everything worked perfectly, including adding new features and updating. LG. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
