On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Jon Stanley <jonstanley@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 1:34 PM, drago01 <drago01@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> What happened to this https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/142 ? > > Sorry about that, as I mentioned in the ticket, entirely my fault this > didn't get brought up :( OK, np. > Anyhow, the concerns that I have about this is as Paul noted in the > ticket, what happens if someone downloads this now more visible > x86_64 release and finds that it doesn't boot their computer? I sense > a lot of "man, this Fedora thing SUCKS!". Yeah true, we have to present in a way where this is unlikely to happen, but hiding the x86_64 version to be only visible for people that know that it exist isn't any better either. Fedora's mission is to provide the new technologies to the user and x86_64 is definitely the way forward. > Moreover, with the new architecture support feature in F11, we're now > supposedly defaulting to an x86_64 kernel on an i686 install if the > processor supports it (note that I say supposedly because I've not > personally tested it). Thus you have an x86_64 kernel, and all of the > goodness that brings, but you still have an i686 userspace. Which is not really worth doing, if your hardware supports it you should be using x86_64 for userspace too. The only reason people prefer to run i686 even on x86_64 is because "apps do not work", which is nothing but a myth. Ever 32bit app should work just fine unless it ships with a (binary) kernel module. But all popular binary kernel modules (nvidia, fglrx, vmware, vbox) do ship 64bit builds. > Also, keep in mind that while x86_64 hardware is quite common in the > US and Western Europe (perhaps to a lesser extent there than the US, > even), there are many parts of the world where that is not common, and > folks would have to go find the i686 version to download. True, but everything not a netbook sold in the last couple of years is x86_64 capable. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list