On Sat, 2009-05-02 at 19:34 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > I already explained that, we're circling *again*. The problem is that > > when you ask someone to make a choice without understanding the options, > > it tends to frustrate them. This is a well-observed phenomenon in all > > circles, certainly including computer user interface design. > > This would just be one single choice, and a choice a sizable portion of our > userbase wants to make (even those who happen to use Fedora's current > defaults: ask them around how they'd react if Fedora would install KDE by > default and making it a complex hunt of checkboxes to select GNOME instead, > also by making all the use-case-specific groups default to KDE apps and > having the GNOME equivalents part of the GNOME group instead; yet that's > exactly what's done right now, except with GNOME<->KDE switched around). > The current solution is highly inconvenient. I can only really recommend > the KDE live spin for KDE users. Sadly, that one is hidden behind a small > link on the default download page, with the default download not even > containing KDE at all. In terms of what should happen on the web page, I don't really have an opinion. It is a tricky area with no obvious right answer. I had to deal with the same issue at MDV. A few years ago we had a download page (well, area...) which carefully exposed every possible edition of Mandriva you could choose to download - KDE, GNOME, Xfce, DVD, CD, 32-bit, 64-bit, different language 'spins'. Someone did a bit of research and found that only 33% of the people who got to the download area then managed to reach the point of actually downloading anything... so we instead implemented a massively simplified download screen, which gave you the KDE live CD by default and offered the 32-bit install DVD as a second option, and relegated everything else to the release notes. Whereupon the download numbers went up but all the 64-bit fans, GNOME fans, Xfce fans etc were up in arms. I couldn't ever think of a decent compromise, I'm not sure there *is* one. There's a penalty to exposing all the choices and a penalty to *not* exposing all the choices. As I said a few mails back, before we can even attempt an answer, we really need a definition of what set of potential users we actually care about. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
