Re: Network Manager in F11 Preview

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On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 11:52 -0400, Mark Bidewell wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Dan Williams <dcbw@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>         On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 11:12 -0400, Mark Bidewell wrote:
>         > When I installed F11 preview.  Network manager configured my
>         eth0 to
>         > never be activiated automatically.  Since this was the only
>         NIC on the
>         > system the result was no network.  Easily fixable but not
>         user
>         > friendly.  I use KDE so I am not sure if this goes against
>         network
>         > manager or knetworkmanager.  Any thoughts?
>         
>         
>         People can't have it both ways.  Anaconda will write ONBOOT=no
>         if you
>         are not installing over the network, and thus your interface
>         will not be
>         "autoconnect".  If you do install over a network, then
>         anaconda will
>         write ONBOOT=yes, and you will get autoconnect.  That's the
>         root cause
>         of your problem.  Not sure how to fix it, because there are
>         legitimate
>         reasons for not making all interfaces autoconnect when you
>         don't do a
>         network install.  Part of that is security; don't bring a
>         network up
>         until you really need it, since connecting to a network makes
>         a machine
>         less secure.
>         
>         Not sure how to fix this, it's more of a policy decision at
>         install-time
>         than anything technical.
>         
>         Dan
>         
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> I guess the question here is what if I was a "Joe SixPack" user who
> didn't know immediately to look in the settings what would I have
> done.  Without network connectivity it is a little difficult to
> research the answer.

At least you can click on the ethernet connection in the applet menu if
you can associate the "two computers with a red X" icon with networking.
That's two clicks and doesn't require jumping into the connection editor
to just get online.

Dan



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