On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:14 AM, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 17:58 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: >> He doesn't need to imply anything. Curseaudio is unbroken only in your >> system(s) and possibly in a countably many other people's. >> >> > Also, what's the point of listing closed bugs? >> > >> >> They are not all closed. There are many OPEN's as well as WONTFIX' and >> WORKSFORME's. >> >> Please do lift this curse from Fedora. It is bad. It is broken to a >> great extent. I'm glad I got rid of it before it started damaging my >> hardware. >> >> Pretty please! > > Orcan, I don't think this is very helpful. > > I think many people have had similar experiences -- I actually disabled > PulseAudio completely in my own F-10 machines and especially my > father's, because audio was just too unreliable. > > But Fedora is _supposed_ to be bleeding edge. It may have been a little > _too_ bleeding edge in that case, but it's also a lot better in F-11 > than it used to be. A lot of work has gone into fixing the bugs, and > personally I'm determined to stick with it in F-11. > > Amusingly, the first time I noticed PulseAudio actually 'doing its job' > and mixing multiple streams was completely counterproductive -- it was > when I was trying to give a presentation from OpenOffice, and because > the video was playing on both screens, so did the audio... slightly out > of sync with each other, giving me an echo :) > > But still, I'm determined to stick with it. And I don't think that > attacking it on those grounds is particularly useful. > > The issue which we _should_ address is how regressions are handled when > they're actually a _design_ issue in PulseAudio rather than simply a > bug. It's very disturbing that regressions are being marked as WONTFIX, > and I think we need to do better than that. > David, Had CA worked for me in just one case out of so many, I wouldn't complain so strongly. Recently it started damaging my wife's data on her computer (just hard-reboot your computer as if it was frozen 5 times a day for a month. I'm confident that you'll lose some data at some point). I'm glad I shut it off before it damaged the hardware. It is harmful. It is 100% crap. OK, maybe 99.999%, since it works for you guys. I am all for bleeding edge. But CA is so immature that it doesn't have a circulatory system yet. Thus it cannot bleed. Orcan -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list