Jesse Keating wrote: > We've grown to the point of overflowing the DVD. ... > I wanted to post this here for discussion and maybe alternatives. In my opinion, the easiest way to trim "the DVD" is to remove all .rpms for Software Development. I believe that most users who use those .rpms can get them easily and inexpensively some other way. I'm a software developer, and I often omit Software Development when installing from DVD. Then I "yum install" and download only what I use, which often is about 1/4 of what I would get by installing Software Development from a recent Fedora DVD. Make a separate Software Development "spin" (platter image) if demand warrants. During the Fedora 11 development cycle I have often composed my own DVDs from rawhide using pungi, caching .rpms "by hand" to save download time (both in pungi and via "yum localupdate".) Today's sizes for my DVDs: i386: 2.737 GB x86_64: 3.365 GB I get this by commenting out each @Language in the kickstart file. I am most interested in testing and making Rescue mode work well. I dislike waiting for all those other .rpms (download, compose, burn.) Obviously that choice is not appropriate for a Fedora general release. But it does illustrate the cost of catering to such a diverse user base. On a regular Fedora DVD, about 1/3 of the space is devoted to .rpms for supporting multiple natural/national languages: font, langpack, hunspell, thesorus, etc. Here are the 33 largest individual .rpms in my [pruned] pungi cache: kB name ------ ------------ 103792 openoffice.org-core-3.1.0-9.2.fc11.x86_64.rpm 98340 openoffice.org-core-3.1.0-9.2.fc11.i586.rpm 81984 eclipse-pde-3.4.2-9.fc11.i586.rpm 81984 eclipse-pde-3.4.2-9.fc11.x86_64.rpm 58028 texlive-texmf-fonts-2007-28.fc11.noarch.rpm 56776 btanks-data-0.8.7686-9.fc11.noarch.rpm 33900 thunderbird-3.0-2.1.beta2.fc11.i586.rpm 33244 thunderbird-3.0-2.1.beta2.fc11.x86_64.rpm 33184 java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-19.b14.fc11.i586.rpm 33084 kdegames-4.2.2-6.fc11.x86_64.rpm 33024 kdegames-4.2.2-6.fc11.i586.rpm 32144 eclipse-cdt-5.0.2-2.fc11.x86_64.rpm 31364 java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-19.b14.fc11.x86_64.rpm 29188 eclipse-cdt-5.0.2-2.fc11.i586.rpm 28392 gnome-user-docs-2.26.1-1.fc11.noarch.rpm 28272 frysk-0.4-8.fc11.x86_64.rpm 28224 frysk-0.4-8.fc11.i386.rpm 27316 java-1.5.0-gcj-javadoc-1.5.0.0-25.fc11.i386.rpm 27316 java-1.5.0-gcj-javadoc-1.5.0.0-25.fc11.x86_64.rpm 27072 eclipse-platform-3.4.2-9.fc11.i586.rpm 27072 eclipse-platform-3.4.2-9.fc11.x86_64.rpm 24104 eclipse-jdt-3.4.2-9.fc11.i586.rpm 24104 eclipse-jdt-3.4.2-9.fc11.x86_64.rpm 23008 glibc-common-2.9.90-16.x86_64.rpm 23004 glibc-common-2.9.90-16.i586.rpm 22460 kernel-debug-2.6.29.1-70.fc11.x86_64.rpm 22276 kernel-2.6.29.1-70.fc11.x86_64.rpm 21792 libgcj-4.4.0-0.34.x86_64.rpm 21452 kernel-PAEdebug-2.6.29.1-70.fc11.i686.rpm 21260 kernel-PAE-2.6.29.1-70.fc11.i686.rpm 21160 kernel-2.6.29.1-70.fc11.i586.rpm 20600 java-1.6.0-openjdk-javadoc-1.6.0.0-19.b14.fc11.x86_64.rpm 20600 java-1.6.0-openjdk-javadoc-1.6.0.0-19.b14.fc11.i586.rpm In my opinion, 58MB for texlive-texmf-fonts on a DVD for "general use" is excessive: more than 1% of the available space, and frequently unused. Those who use texlive should obtain it separately. My award for the largest bloat factor goes to the libgweather .rpm at 13MB. This ought to be at most 1MB by doing appropriate computation at install and/or run time. -- -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
