Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > I re-orphaned portaudio. I see that it is patched to work with > pulseaudio, which, I think, must be banned from the surface of Earth. > I am not planning to maintain a package with such a patch. PulseAudio is the default sound solution in Fedora, so all packages using sound SHOULD support it. IMHO, we should: * find some solution for JACK apps to work out of the box, without reconfiguring PulseAudio to work on top of JACK. Maybe this involves running JACK on top of PulseAudio (something which currently doesn't work because JACK does not support non-mmap ALSA devices nor the native PulseAudio protocol), maybe this involves starting up JACK when needed and having it load the JACK modules into PulseAudio and rerouting running PulseAudio streams to JACK at runtime (which can be done without interrupting the PulseAudio streams - the problem with that solution is that it breaks support for multiple output devices, which work just fine when using PulseAudio directly), maybe something else, but in any case a solution is needed to make things just work. * once that's done, make it a requirement that sound MUST work with PulseAudio without manual configuration. PulseAudio MUST be the default in all sound-using applications. JACK SHOULD only be used if PulseAudio (and any of the compatible APIs, e.g. ALSA, ESD etc.) is not supported (and as I explained above, it needs to interoperate with PulseAudio more than it currently does). Likewise, aRts (the deprecated KDE 3 sound server) SHOULD only be used if outputting directly to PulseAudio is not possible. It makes no sense to have a sound server configured by default and then have assorted applications not working with it. It also makes no sense to have a whole set of applications (JACK-using applications) require manual reconfiguration of the system according to a readme file shipped with the jack-audio-connection-kit package to even work at all. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list